Discussion:
JBuilder 2006 for Mac???
(too old to reply)
MikeOsX
2005-09-21 21:02:57 UTC
Permalink
Hi Guys,
My creditcard is on standby,
any word of availability of 2006 for OS X?
Lori M Olson [TeamB]
2005-09-22 15:18:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by MikeOsX
Hi Guys,
My creditcard is on standby,
any word of availability of 2006 for OS X?
Sigh, I was really hoping that no one would notice this for a while
longer. AFAIK, JB2006 is not available for Mac.

I am currently messing around, trying to get a Windows install copied
over and working on the Mac. If it works, I'll write up an article on
the steps and get it posted.
--
Regards,

Lori Olson [TeamB]

------------

Save yourself, and everyone else, some time and search the
newsgroups and the FAQ-O-Matic before posting your next
question.

Google Advanced Newsgroup Search
http://www.google.ca/advanced_group_search
Other Newsgroup Searches:
http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html
Joi Ellis's FAQ-O-Matic:
http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html
MikeOSX
2005-09-22 17:54:02 UTC
Permalink
Lori,
There are tears streaming down my face.
Will keep checking for your post.
Post by Lori M Olson [TeamB]
Post by MikeOsX
Hi Guys,
My creditcard is on standby,
any word of availability of 2006 for OS X?
Sigh, I was really hoping that no one would notice this for a while
longer. AFAIK, JB2006 is not available for Mac.
I am currently messing around, trying to get a Windows install copied
over and working on the Mac. If it works, I'll write up an article on
the steps and get it posted.
--
Regards,
Lori Olson [TeamB]
------------
Save yourself, and everyone else, some time and search the
newsgroups and the FAQ-O-Matic before posting your next
question.
Google Advanced Newsgroup Search
http://www.google.ca/advanced_group_search
http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html
http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html
Richard Hatherall
2005-09-23 10:35:28 UTC
Permalink
Dear Mac users,

RANT...

Yesterday I asked Borland whether Mac OS X would be supported and they
came back to me with this: -

"Just to be clear about this, no. JBuilder2006 will not be supported on
the Mac and was not tested on that platform."

I have to say I am a bit livid about this. I mean when JB2005 came out I
was buying a new laptop for software development and seeing as Mac OS X
was announced as supported I bought a PowerBook as I figured I'd be
happier with that.

So anyhoo I have a PowerBook that runs JB2005 like a gem on 10.4 Tiger
and I'm paying ridiculous amounts of money to Borland for maintenance
each year and for what? Upgrades to versions I can't use!

A few years ago, I, like a fool bought Kylix (1,2 and 3) and had quite a
bit of success with it and I accepted the flaws in the system as it was
a developing product and what do you know they killed it off.

I have always been a fan of Borland products, they're great. I would say
to people looking now for development tools don't bother with Borland.
So MikeOSX put your credit card away they don't care for the Mac users
or the Linux users (in the case of Kylix).

I'm off to throw several shelves of Borland products from the past
decade in the bin!

Sincerely,

Richard Hatherall [TeamDisillusioned]
TTS (Software Solutions) Ltd.
Paul Furbacher [TeamB]
2005-09-23 12:36:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Richard Hatherall
Dear Mac users,
RANT...
Yesterday I asked Borland whether Mac OS X would be supported and they
came back to me with this: -
"Just to be clear about this, no. JBuilder2006 will not be supported on
the Mac and was not tested on that platform."
I have to say I am a bit livid about this. [...]
This is not official, but my guess is that it was
a matter of timing. JBuilder 2006 was just released.
So, cast your mind back some nine months when
development *and testing* of JBuilder 2006 probably began.
What was the state of Java 5 on OS X at that time?
Non-existent. It only became available as a "Release 1",
buried deep in Apple's Web site -- in the "Support"
pages. It's not advertised even to this day on the
front "Java on OS X" page, not that I could see.
And finally, it's also only available for Tiger
which itself was just being adopted and had
penetrated less than ~15% of the user base, if I
remember the figures from Job's *June 2006* WWDC
keynote. (My Cube is still running Panther, albeit
with frequent SecurityServer crashes, and I just
got done installing Panther on this Pismo which I
use for all my TeamB work, email, OmniGraffle, ssh
to work on client's Linux machines, and other
"productivity" kind of stuff. So, I'm not running
Java 5 on OS X and I doubt very many others are.)

Therefore, given what essentially was the non-availability
of Java 5 on OS X and no forecast (you do know that
Apple doesn't ever say much about the future of anything
at Apple -- Jobs just commented on "what's up with all
the secrecy at Apple" just last week in an interview),
what would you have done as the JBuilder product and
development manager, working with what I imagine was
restrained budgeting since apparently, you and just
a handful of folks are still paying for their IDE?
Everyone wants one for free and really doesn't seem
to care about quality or productivity.

Again, the above is just a guess as to why no JBuilder 2006
is being supported on OS X. This kind of thing has plagued
JBuilder for OS X releases a number of times before, and
each time, someone in the community has worked their butt
off to figure out how to install it (usually from the Linux
distro, or a copied and rearranged Windows installation)
and how to run it. Lori says she's working on it, and I
imagine others are too. Stay tuned: this newsgroup is
where all the other solutions were provided, and I expect
that that will be the case this time.
--
Paul Furbacher (TeamB)

Save time, search the archives:
http://info.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html

Is it in Joi Ellis's Faq-O-Matic?
http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html

Finally, please send responses to the newsgroup only.
That means, do not send email directly to me.
Thank you.
Loading...